wade to issues relating to civil rights and civil liberties. and so that -- that -- that was one of the intellectual changes that took place in my career as i got a close look at it. and that's why i was the first chairman of the judiciary committee to forthrightly state that it matters what your judicial philosophy is. the american people have a right to understand it and to know it. but i did change on that, and -- and i'm glad i did. >> governor? >> there have been times where, as mayor and governor, we have passed budgets that i did not veto and that i think could be considered as something that i quasi-caved in, if you will, but knowing that it was the right thing to do in order to progress the agenda for that year and to work with the legislative body, that body that actually holds the purse strings. so there were times when i wanted to zero-base budget, and to cut taxes even more, and i didn't have enough support in order to accomplish that. but on the major principle things, no, there hasn't been something that i've had to compromise on